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No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:37 pm
by Grythandril
While trying out the Taboo settings

I discovered you can have no spells at the start due to the following taboo setting:

Taboo: Law Spells + Non Law Spells

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All you have is disbelieve and your megaspell for classic chaos

Not sure f this is intentional or an oversight bug

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:26 am
by clef
Sounds like it could allow for a weird equipped match with pre-selected megaspells only. If equipping a spell- binding talisman allows one to bypass that limit (Does it?) it would also allow for matches with only specific spells allowed, I think?

as you can see I don't know much about the taboo system, but sounds to me like every weird combination of taboos could be useful for a specific kind of unusual match, even one without spells

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:33 am
by RafiRomero
It is by design, although I'm not sure I'd want to play that game:)
It might make a little sense on a map with a decent number of sprites (so it would work out as megaspell only, and the mega would be sprite-powered).
By the time you get to demigod (a requirement to create custom games), it is hoped that you are familiar enough with taboos to know what you're getting when you create a match.

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:36 pm
by anjovi
It'd be curious to see what it'd be like if taboos could prohibit mega spells from being generated. Might make them more consequential in general. Thinking something like a fading of the mega spell icon on the staff.

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:29 pm
by Grythandril
RafiRomero wrote:It is by design, although I'm not sure I'd want to play that game:)
It might make a little sense on a map with a decent number of sprites (so it would work out as megaspell only, and the mega would be sprite-powered).
I was under the impression that you could only select 1 taboo per wizard by design

but now you can select multiple taboos from 1 to 23 for each wizard.

While this leads to more interesting scenarios it does question the fact you can cancel one taboo with another, hence the example mentioned.

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:37 pm
by ustolemytiger
Sounds brutal! I'm in!!!!

Re: No spells due to taboo setting

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:44 pm
by anjovi
They don't really cancel each other out as they stack on one another.
ex. Non-Chaos spells taboo + non-creature taboo + Flying creature taboo = only land based chaos creatures

Imo, this is one of the coolest additions to the game as it allows a good amount of customization while keeping to the spirit of the game. If you could only stack spell objectives in a similar manner (ex. use spell ---> magic sword + magic bow = use either bow or sword) I think you'd have the game set (even if you removed all of the other objective types and left it to spells, i think you'd have a robust enough system to make a variety of custom matchups, as you could easily taboo the spells you don't want players to use)

But if there was a way to liberally stack spells that you can use to win, similar to how you can do taboos, as well as made it an option for asyncs to have these custom rules, you'd probably have a bigger draw towards all the work you've put into it thus far.

All that would need to be tweaked imo is that once you set more then 1 spell to be used, you just remove the obligatory starting creature.